n one of his most wide-ranging interviews of 2025, OpenAI CEO Sam Altman spoke to business journalist Alex Kantrowitz about AI and jobs, AGI, ChatGPT in the enterprise, GPT-6, AI-first product design, and its massive deals for a $1.4T data center buildout.

If you don't want to listen to the entire hour-long conversation, I've pulled out the nine most interesting quotes from the interview. Here they are, ranked in order of importance:

1. "I am not a jobs doomer... I think you just don’t bet against evolutionary biology."
2. "That $1.4 trillion we'll spend over a long period of time. I wish we could do it faster."
3. "We have never yet found a situation where we can't really well monetize all the compute we have. I think if we had double the compute, we'd be at double the revenue right now."
4. "This was a year where enterprise growth outpaced consumer growth. And given where the models are today and where they'll get to next year, we think this is the time where we can build a really significant enterprise business quite rapidly.
5. "The term [AGI], although it's very hard for all of us to stop using, is very under-defined."
6. "A [possible] definition for superintelligence is when a system can do a better job being President of the United States... than any person can, even with the assistance of AI."
7. "Bolting AI onto the existing way of doing things, I don't think, is going to work as well as redesigning stuff in this AI-first world. It's part of why we wanted to do devices, but it applies at many other levels."
8. "I don't know when we'll call a model GPT-6. But I would expect new models that are significant gains from [GPT] 5.2 in the first quarter of next year."
9. "I'm excited for OpenAI to be a public company in some ways... and in some ways I think it'll be really annoying."